He did that with me too. Ascribing beliefs and ideas to people without actually having proof of it. He wasn't willing to step outside of himself and his own mind.
No, Dazai understood people. At least, how dark they could be but not much else.
[big sigh, looking up]
He didn't get himself killed because of you two. You weren't even part of the equation. If we had to choose to execute someone because there weren't enough people dead, he thought he was going to be picked. So, he wanted to head off the vote.
[there's a pause, then a wry smile from Akira, his mouth twitching upwards]
Because he wanted to die on his own terms. I get that. There was a lot of selfishness in what Dazai did. But--
[tilts his head back, expression thoughtful]
I'm not the kind of person who tries to see the best in everyone, no matter what. But I do trust my judgment when it comes to people. And I think there was a lot more to Dazai than his complete and utter selfishness.
The text. I wasn't going to help him, either with dying or living. I was passing the baton onto someone else. Whoever would talk him down or help him with ending it. Kind of wish I had now, though. Right now, I feel very — Complicit in everything.
No, it's two each night, killed and executed. Seven more means we're going to drop to nine before the game ends. The raccoons are going to want that last execution, when we're at ten, take away freedom from someone so very close to it.
There's also just — People reacting poorly. We've got another, um, two, three in us?
You're probably right. As long as people keep playing along, as long as those two raccoons continue to have power over us. . . it's just going to get worse.
If I were to guess based on the texts we're receiving and how this scenario has been set-up, our consciousness emerges somewhere else. Those that die are able to see and hear us via the cameras around the school. Our agony is probably undoubtedly real and painful but also deeply amusing for them.
And if we were to think of what Shuichi experienced . . . Well, our memories could have been wiped and reformed countless times. Running different scenarios. What if Akira did this, what if Luxanna had done that, on and on.
What probably catches me most about that line of thought is the lack of humanity in it. I, um, was really holding out for a mastermind? A person who wanted to see a particular end, something significant to them. But if there isn't, if it's random, then there isn't a "right" answer. A behavior or chain of events that would satisfy.
. . . We're, ah, really small, then. Just ants in the farm until someone decides it's time to shake again.
If a simulation is meant to provoke an authentic response, then it should be realistic, shouldn't it? With everything else we've seen here, I find it odd that you are caught on that part.
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Date: 2018-01-14 07:19 pm (UTC)What about him?
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Date: 2018-01-14 07:24 pm (UTC)How about you?
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Date: 2018-01-14 07:25 pm (UTC)"Some people think that those who want to die should be the ones who die. And they're not wrong."
[. . .]
That's. . . what he said to me.
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Date: 2018-01-14 07:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 07:34 pm (UTC)Dazai doesn't really understand people, you know? I tried to make him see, but--
[shrugs. a bit helplessly]
I think he saw that Ichigo and I were willing to put ourselves in the line of fire to-- escape. To. . . try and stop this stupid game in its tracks.
And when he saw that, he knew there was a very real chance that we would die. So he offered himself up, hoping to make it easier for us to survive.
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Date: 2018-01-14 07:43 pm (UTC)[big sigh, looking up]
He didn't get himself killed because of you two. You weren't even part of the equation. If we had to choose to execute someone because there weren't enough people dead, he thought he was going to be picked. So, he wanted to head off the vote.
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Date: 2018-01-14 07:53 pm (UTC)Because he wanted to die on his own terms. I get that. There was a lot of selfishness in what Dazai did. But--
[tilts his head back, expression thoughtful]
I'm not the kind of person who tries to see the best in everyone, no matter what. But I do trust my judgment when it comes to people. And I think there was a lot more to Dazai than his complete and utter selfishness.
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Date: 2018-01-14 08:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 08:05 pm (UTC)[tilts a head towards Will]
Why did you feel like you needed to tell me this?
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Date: 2018-01-14 08:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 08:21 pm (UTC)[. . . a small shrug]
I do think there was a hidden manipulator in Tsumugi and Dazai's case. But I don't know who.
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Date: 2018-01-14 08:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 08:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 08:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 09:38 pm (UTC)[a breath]
Seven more until we reach ten.
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Date: 2018-01-14 09:49 pm (UTC)[sighs]
There'll be another suicide to even the numbers.
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Date: 2018-01-14 09:52 pm (UTC)What, you think someone is going to say, "we need to drop down to 16 for an even number, better kill myself?"
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Date: 2018-01-14 09:58 pm (UTC)There's also just — People reacting poorly. We've got another, um, two, three in us?
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Date: 2018-01-14 10:11 pm (UTC)And three more killing nights means only six more dead, if we assume only two will die each night and day cycle.
[rubs his temples]
. . . and you're right. People here haven't exactly been making the smartest decisions. Myself included.
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Date: 2018-01-14 10:14 pm (UTC)[oh, look, a joke]
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Date: 2018-01-14 10:22 pm (UTC)[snorts in amusement and continues, voice dry]
People do say depression tends to skyrocket during the holidays.
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Date: 2018-01-14 10:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 10:26 pm (UTC)[his brows shoot upwards in surprise, before his expression settles on something softer. actual gratitude?]
That isn't an offer I thought I'd ever hear from you, Graham.
. . . I talked to him last night, though. I think he'll be okay. But I'll keep that in mind nevertheless.
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Date: 2018-01-14 10:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 10:56 pm (UTC)After yesterday, it's hard not to think of him as a risk. He hit rock bottom pretty hard.
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Date: 2018-01-14 11:00 pm (UTC)[and stretching out, hands in his pockets with his head tipped back]
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Date: 2018-01-14 11:22 pm (UTC)[he hates to admit to that, but. . .]
You're probably right. As long as people keep playing along, as long as those two raccoons continue to have power over us. . . it's just going to get worse.
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Date: 2018-01-14 11:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-14 11:36 pm (UTC)Six friends and you're out, huh?
Honestly, that's the best thing anyone who doesn't plan on killing can do in this situation.
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Date: 2018-01-14 11:39 pm (UTC)Haven't spent the night with either you or Ichigo, incidentally. But I am going to see how the dice treat me.
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Date: 2018-01-15 12:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-15 12:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-15 12:12 am (UTC)Where do you think the people who die go?
[well okay that's a super weird question to ask out of the blue but here we are]
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Date: 2018-01-15 12:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-15 12:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-15 12:27 am (UTC)[tilting his head, staring at the floor]
If I were to guess based on the texts we're receiving and how this scenario has been set-up, our consciousness emerges somewhere else. Those that die are able to see and hear us via the cameras around the school. Our agony is probably undoubtedly real and painful but also deeply amusing for them.
And if we were to think of what Shuichi experienced . . . Well, our memories could have been wiped and reformed countless times. Running different scenarios. What if Akira did this, what if Luxanna had done that, on and on.
What probably catches me most about that line of thought is the lack of humanity in it. I, um, was really holding out for a mastermind? A person who wanted to see a particular end, something significant to them. But if there isn't, if it's random, then there isn't a "right" answer. A behavior or chain of events that would satisfy.
. . . We're, ah, really small, then. Just ants in the farm until someone decides it's time to shake again.
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Date: 2018-01-15 12:43 am (UTC)But where would our consciousness emerge? Seto theorized this was all a simulation, which-- [gestures] It all still feels real, regardless of that.
. . . regardless, I have to admit there's nothing more demoralizing than being compared to an ant in a farm.
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Date: 2018-01-15 03:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-15 03:51 am (UTC)[shrugs]
I don't know what to think about this whole thing being a simulation.
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Date: 2018-01-15 03:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2018-01-15 04:45 am (UTC)Ignorance won't help us escape this place.
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Date: 2018-01-15 05:03 am (UTC)You're probably right.
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Date: 2018-01-15 05:09 am (UTC)Maybe.
[and he gives a small shrug]